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31-10-11, 09:18 #1
Danish doctors who will provide hypothyroid patients with a psychiatric diagnosis
Danish doctors who will provide hypothyroid patients with a psychiatric diagnosis and will treat hypothyroidism with psychotropic drugs.
Be aware if you are a hypothyroid patient, with good figures but for years with many symptoms.
Be aware, that if you end up with one of those doctors, you will receive a psychiatric diagnosis, but no effective treatment for your hypothyroidism.
If you want to know why we want to spread the word about these doctors, see here: http://www.sonjas-stoffskifteforum.i...ad.php?t=13699 Unfortunately only in Danish ...
Marianne Rosendal
seniorforsker, praktiserende læge
Kaj Sparle Christensen
ph.d., seniorforsker, praktiserende læge
Lene Agersnap
praktiserende læge
Per Fink
professor, ph.d., dr.med., forskningsleder, speciallæge i psykiatri
Claus Vinther Nielsen
ph.d., ledende socialoverlæge, klinisk lektor i socialmedicin
Charlotte Ulrikka Rask
ph.d., afdelingslæge, klinisk lektor i børne- og ungdomspsykiatri
Jette Ingerslev
overlæge, dr. med., speciallæge i intern medicin og geriatri
Lise Dyhr
ph.d., seniorforsker, praktiserende læge
Marianne Kastrup
lic.med., overlæge
Bo Stork
praktiserende læge
Will be updated...Hvis du har noen spørsmål knyttet til bruk av vårt forum - les OSS/FAQ.
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08-11-11, 09:55 #2
Sv: Danish doctors who will provide hypothyroid patients with a psychiatric diagnosis
When I look at the medical profession as it is today - I have incredibly hard to see anything other than a casual "lifestyle" or "lifestyle", when young people choose to be doctors. In my world, I see now doctors as a race for themselves ... not as a profession. Just as an independent breed, alive and functioning medical profession in its own mini-universe, evolving and holding its very own laws and a pecking order, which looks just like, what subcultures developed with one purpose - to keep themselves as much as possible unchanged from its surroundings, and most pristine of the surrounding community.
If a car mechanic lets a customer run in a car with defective brakes - he would not only risk losing his job, but could also be prosecuted. When a doctor slowly turn his patient to death with heavy drugs or side effect, or quickly - with malpractice - nothing happens! In Denmark, even demonstrably insane doctors keeps their authorization, but doctors who do not comply with the collegiate game - yes, their certificates will be "suspended". No other profession is so exempt from liability, as the medical profession, and no other professions can, so much do whatever it pleases, as the medical profession.
Like in any subculture, also within the medical profession it is important to get the most out of the least possible. "Laws of survival" applies not only for plants and animals, but they apply to the subcultures survival as well: how to maintain myself as a doctor, with minimum effort? Answers to this question exists, in large part - in the proposed Clinical guidelines for general practice regarding Functional symptoms and disorders presented by the Danish Society of General Practitioners.
It is not for the benefit of sick people this proposal comes now. Under the guise of being needed to save society resources - protecting the medical profession its own interests again! Provided that this proposal will be adopted (it does) it will save Danish doctors for the burden to have to retrain themselves, the burden of having to understand patients and diseases, and not least, the doctors will be officially relieved of the responsibility, they allready long abandoned in the practice . They will be guaranteed their salaries, despite that they provide not enough for it. It is namely "not enough" when they discard it difficult to diagnose and treat, groups of chronic patients - those doctors are not qualified to treat. To hide these skills shortages and to avoid having to acquire them - will be thousands and thousands of patients fitted with psychiatric diagnoses.
I just hate Danish doctors treating hypothyroidism because they treat it wrong, and they make us even sicker! And now they will call us officially for hypochondriacs?
Not officially, they have already done so for a long time!
(It is not certain that my hypo-brain remembers my (school)English well enough. Corrections are very welcome.)• Tak for at du læste mit indlæg.
• Vil du vide lidt om hvad jeg står for, er du velkommen til at læse min signatur her
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27-10-13, 18:04 #3
Sv: Danish doctors who will provide hypothyroid patients with a psychiatric diagnosis
My lovely friend was diagnosed and medicated for ADHD. When I met her, I immediately noticed her goiter and when she told me she was on ADHD medicine I questioned the wisdom of adding a contraindicated medicine to her system when she had a thyroid problem. "How do you know I have a thyroid issue?" she asked.
Her mother, mother's sister and mother's mother have all had their thyroid removed due to nodules.
I didn't know whether to laugh or cried, but rather contrary to principle I asked her to please stop the ADHD medicine immediately. And then I took her to the gp... which didn't go very well. Gp got really defensive and didn't even know that ADHD medicine is contraindicated in thyroid patients!!!
Anyway, the GP did the FIRST EVER actually PHYSICAL examination of the patient and like me, found the goiter. My friend was sent for a scan and has now had radioactive treatment for the nodules. She's been offered T4 only treatment once her thyroid is dead. But don't worry - we shall kick some arse if the doctor tries to give substandard care - again.
Unfortunately, I am not a Type 1 thyroid patient. I.e. my thyroid is fine. But my cellular hormone level is not. I am, as most people in Denmark, iodine deficient and have rT3 dominance. So, I also have a mental disorder (!) but unlike my friend, I remain untreated. But then, sometimes being untreated is better than being treated. How being nuked with radioactive matter is the only treatment she was offered I shall never know... it's a travesty!
Anyway, mentally ill with fibromyalgia and depression, I fight on.
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